Curse

Ken Dei · Jun 30, 2006, 10:22 PM // 22:22

I make more tickets making educated guesses based on pattern recognition. I was losing far more by just standing on the center. When there are to many unknown "X"s math doesn't mean jack.

Example: A.Net recognizes the basic mathmatical equation involved and stacks the odds to favor different spots in the randomization coding. i.e. slightly heavier on corners.

So unless you don't have time to spend a few hours. (Very understandable.) Just guess people.

The most basic pattern I notice is:

-Chess Knight Move

1.

XOO
OOO
OOO

2.

OOO OOO
OOX OOO
OOO OXO

Asrial · Jun 30, 2006, 11:44 PM // 23:44

Grr, I'm officially annoyed. Come home, expecting a nice little 10 hour AFK session only to find out I had been disconnected. Yeehaw!

8:30am
9x250 (stack)
1x38 (leftover)
28,061 (won)
2,044 (lost)

?
9x250 (stack)
1x58 (leftover)
33,721 (won)
2,404 (lost)

Still on the corner. I WAS in the running to be one of the first hitting the title.. but not now! I will however, be grinding away at this until the end of the festival.

K U J A · Jul 01, 2006, 01:11 AM // 01:11

I think the top left corner (or number 1) if ur facing towards Teilah is the most rewarding. Not the chances or anything.

I bought 2 1/2 Stacks(625). I'm now at 14k tickets won and 1000 losses. And i have 140 tickets left.

Maybe these things arent randomnized....

ecto bomb · Jul 01, 2006, 02:33 AM // 02:33

Well after 10 Hours of afkness.

I finally reached 50,000 Tickets won.
And about 3,000 lost.

(Will post screeny for proof)

Asrial · Jul 01, 2006, 02:47 AM // 02:47

More data...

? (restarted @ 6:40pm)
9x250
1x58
33,721
2,404

9:40pm
9x250
1x53
44,926
3,147

.

For 5 tickets.. I won 11k and lost ~800 games. It really is NOT expensive to do this. The money requirement is so you can ride out bad streaks.

SamGad · Jul 01, 2006, 03:20 AM // 03:20

...I'm sorry but i'd say if there's anyone willing to stand on that spot for 4 millenia just to get two steps closer to Kind of a big deal then it's all the better for us...
It's about a step up from them just finding a cliff...

Mtank325 · Jul 01, 2006, 03:53 AM // 03:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by SamGad

...I'm sorry but i'd say if there's anyone willing to stand on that spot for 4 millenia just to get two steps closer to Kind of a big deal then it's all the better for us...
It's about a step up from them just finding a cliff...

Er, it's been mentioned that since these are account-based titles they don't go towards the KoaBD title.

Anyway, I'm also only going for the first tier. Leave it on tonight, maybe throw in a few complete virus scans, and throw in a d/l of the high-def MGS4 trailer, and hopefully have the title and some spare tickets to get some presents. I love just random objects to add to larger trades. I remember collecting a bucket load of those flowers from Pre-searing and dangling them in front of Gwen's face. Now I use them in my trades which gets mixed reactions. I think presents might be more appreciated...

ArtOfFlames · Jul 01, 2006, 04:02 AM // 04:02

ima leave my computer on for a week... afk FTW ima go for the 2.5 winning title.... wish me luck guys

ima get back on the 5th and get my masks for all my characters ^.^

Lando Griffen · Jul 01, 2006, 04:45 AM // 04:45

At first, I thought standing in the middle was a sure way to win, but even though I won more than I lost, I ran out of tickets very fast...so I decided to see how the corner would work out. I bought 250 tickets and stood in the corner and when I came back an hour later, I noticed that I had several stacks of tickets. Even though you may lose more statistically, you win more tickets. I looked at my screen once and some girl was complaining that the corner was unlucky, so she moved...The next four times that corner was selected

maybe it's just me, but I've found the corner to be much more profitable, (you can work on both titles and still come out ahead, and you only need to spend a little on tickets).

Lost · Jul 01, 2006, 05:03 AM // 05:03

Wow, I just can't win today. I'd buy 50 tickets yesterday and that would last me 1-2 hours of afking. Today I buy 250 and it's gone in minutes, every single time. Center, corner, or side, I lose way more than the 5 ticket average per 9 plays.

Blackest Rose · Jul 01, 2006, 06:00 AM // 06:00

Ok Math Gurus lets extend the stats a little.

What if you have 2 accounts and you're in the same district.
Is it more advantageous to put your chars on opposite circles?
What if you got your guild involved and each of you took a corner and center.
On average would you and your guildies be up or down collectively?

I'm curious as right now I have 2 computers playing in the same district on opposite corners.... and they're doing ok....
You may need to top up one from the other from time to time but it's going ok?

A math challenge......
Can someone work it out for two players and then for 4/5 players.... it's been so long since I did probablity and stats that I don't trust myself

Basically is there any way you can rig this game and actually MAKE some money - so far I've spent about 10K!!

kensou · Jul 01, 2006, 06:04 AM // 06:04

I think it's pretty obvious you can't. Having 1 player or n players playing at the sametime makes no difference because their odds of winning/losing are statistically indepedent

Swinging Fists · Jul 01, 2006, 06:13 AM // 06:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lost

Wow, I just can't win today. I'd buy 50 tickets yesterday and that would last me 1-2 hours of afking. Today I buy 250 and it's gone in minutes, every single time. Center, corner, or side, I lose way more than the 5 ticket average per 9 plays.

You need to buy higher quantities to be able to withstand bad streaks. If you don't, you will be wiped out when you hit a bad streak and be left with less than 10 tickets, not playing anymore.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mtank325

Er, it's been mentioned that since these are account-based titles they don't go towards the KoaBD title.

Well, yes it has been mentioned, but not confirmed correct. Actually, I would venture to say that any of the titles, maxed, will count towards KoaBD. Doesn't matter whether they are account-based or character-based. Why should it ? And is there official information somewhere that is leading people to believe this ?

Talon one · Jul 01, 2006, 06:22 AM // 06:22

yay both titles at once

i was trying to get it to exactly 50,000/5,000, but i had a bad winning streak towards the end

Trelon Burg · Jul 01, 2006, 06:41 AM // 06:41

Progress thus far, if you want to call going and watching movies and bowling while your afk progress

Oblivion Odyssey · Jul 01, 2006, 08:46 AM // 08:46

Your math isn't absolute. You forget the title goes by tickets won, not games won... therefore corners win 55+15+15+0+0+0+0+0+0=85 tickets every 9 rounds, and center wins 25+15+15+15+15+0+0+0+0=85 tickets every 9 rounds. Therefore the place you stand doesn't matter for lucky title, but it DOES matter for unlucky title, as while corner rings win the same amount of tickets, they ALSO lose MORE TIMES. Therefore for both titles corner is best. Now THAT is absolute.

And also I've worked out the "maths" problem stated above- every time you play you will lose and average of 5 tickets per 9 rounds- it doesn't matter if you have 1000 people standing in different locations or 2 in the same- for each character, on average, he will lose 5 tickets per 9 rounds. Now that isn't even maths :P

Kool Pajamas · Jul 01, 2006, 09:04 AM // 09:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oblivion Odyssey

Your math isn't absolute. You forget the title goes by tickets won, not games won... therefore corners win 55+15+15+0+0+0+0+0+0=85 tickets every 9 rounds, and center wins 25+15+15+15+15+0+0+0+0=85 tickets every 9 rounds. Therefore the place you stand doesn't matter for lucky title, but it DOES matter for unlucky title, as while corner rings win the same amount of tickets, they ALSO lose MORE TIMES. Therefore for both titles corner is best. Now THAT is absolute.

And also I've worked out the "maths" problem stated above- every time you play you will lose and average of 5 tickets per 9 rounds- it doesn't matter if you have 1000 people standing in different locations or 2 in the same- for each character, on average, he will lose 5 tickets per 9 rounds. Now that isn't even maths :P

Correct. But if you stand on the corner you will have more losing streaks so you will need a much bigger amount of tickets to start with so you dont run out while afk.

Amras · Jul 01, 2006, 09:40 AM // 09:40

I'm beginning to think Anet invented this games so we go afk and get some sleep. Good thinking Anet, keep it up

Juicey Shake · Jul 01, 2006, 11:17 AM // 11:17

Uggggh... 95,500 won... don't care about a screenshot, going to sleep !!

Witchblade · Jul 01, 2006, 11:32 AM // 11:32

kinda funny, if things keep going that way i ll go from 50k to 100k for free